Rah!

[hils]

Dear God, the Daily Fascist makes me angry

Anyone else get the impression that they are being VERY selective with the facts?

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[alinoradesancto.livejournal.com]

*blinking*

Um...okay....

Me too. Wow, the mail really IS stupid..

[hils.livejournal.com]

God, I hate it!

[ionaonie.livejournal.com]

The Daily Moron being selective with the facts?

Never happens...much...well, maybe once a week...once a day...once an hour?

Okay, okay, once a minute, and that's being generous.

[hils.livejournal.com]

It makes me so angry that there will be people out there who will take it as fact

[richandme.livejournal.com]

They never manage quite to say "even putting them with elderly, unhealthy grandparents who will expose the grandchildren to their potentially abusive unstable parents, would be better than letting gay men adopt" but it's written all over the article.

[hils.livejournal.com]

Yes, it is. Grr!

[littlehollyleaf.livejournal.com]

Gah. This argument always makes me mad:

'children need a mum and a dad, not a dad and another dad'

Not specifically against the mum in the article (she MIGHT be a decent person you can't tell anything from the paper :p) but in general.

I remember we were discussing EXACTLY that in an Ethics seminar at Uni and one girl was arguing the same point. A friend of mine kept arguing in response 'why? what can a MUM and dad provide that 2 dads can't?' They asked this SEVERAL times, not to be rude or anything but just because they genuinely wanted to know. In fact they asked EXTREMELY POLITELY. But all the girl could come up with in response was 'well, a kid just needs the two genders that's all, just BECAUSE.' Seriously, that was the EXTENT of the argument, and she even got a bit pissy about it like she thought my friend was asking something stupid just to cause trouble. And it was a bit of a thorny issue too because one of my other friends in the group lost their father as a baby and was brought up by his mum and his aunt, i.e. 2 women. Essentially the girl arguing was saying my friend had been lacking some unspecified thing all his life and therefore hadn't developed properly, even though he'd had a VERY happy home life and is one of the nicest, friendliest and more tolerant people I know.

Foolish, irrational thinking.

[hils.livejournal.com]

A friend of mine is a teacher and she's very much against gay adoption because she thinks it causes children psychological damage and will lead to them being bullied at school

My parents are heterosexual and married and I was bullied at school so that clearly works as an argument

[jslayeruk.livejournal.com]

The biological mum is a heroin addict. One of the grandparents is diabetic and the other has angina. The two of them are declared bankrupts. The grandparents had originally put the children into care for economic reasons but only complained when they discovered a gay couple were to adopt the children. The imbalanced reporting of the Daily Fail makes me sick.

[hils.livejournal.com]

I get enraged whenever I see their headlines

And OMG icon love!

[jslayeruk.livejournal.com]

I was bored and playing with Photoshop and made:



It was very hard to shrink to icon size though.

[hils.livejournal.com]

Hee! Oh, how brilliant!

[simply-numpty.livejournal.com]

LOL - because that's all you can do. The Daily Bigot strikes again. Children need a proper mother and father this is why they should continue to live with their heroin addicted single mum, or go to live with wholly unsuitable grandparents. The grandfather is 56. In 14 years when the girl reaches 18, he'll be 70, by which age he might well need caring for, himself.

And of course, that wonderful line, I have nothing against gay people, I have gay friends, but... *coughs* When is that line ever used other than to cover prejudice?

Oh, and I once had that whole a male and a female parent argument with my mother. It took me a while but I eventually made her realise that her argument was rendered fairly invalid by the fact that it was also an argument against single parent families (male/female), and should they be forced into giving up their children? It was an interesting dinner.

[hils.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean! It just drives me mad! I've had this debate plenty of times with people and grr!

[hobbituk.livejournal.com]

I expect they have over egged the story. But I am deeply uncomfortable with social services in this country. They leave children in potentially fatal situations when it suits them (Baby P, anyone????), and remove them from parents who just happen to not fit their picture of ideal, another time. They are fat. They smoke. They drink. They eat fast food. They don't have an education... These grandparents aren't ideal. But they are these children's family - blood relatives. I think they should have been given the chance.

I also don't like the fact that if the Child courts say the children are to be taken away, the parents have absolutely no rights at all and there is complete secrecy about the decisions taken. There should be a right to appeal. And there should be complete transparency over what is done, for the child's sake, if nothing else. I can't think of anything worse than not knowing why you have been taken away from your family. Most children will assume it is because they have been somehow to blame, not that the Council had an adoption quota to achieve.

I don't have an issue about gay men adopting. I do think a girl, particularly, needs a mother figure though. How can any man, however empathic they are, understand the reality of periods, hormones and girl stuff?? It's hard enough for men bringing girls up alone because they have to as their wife/partner died or walked out.

[hils.livejournal.com]

That last point is certainly valid to an extend. However, my own mum never discussed girl stuff with me because she was too embarassed. I was just left to figure it out on my own or get info from my friends at school. I'd rather have a man who was willing to talk about it than nothing at all.