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hils ([personal profile] hils) wrote2008-02-12 10:40 pm

On books

I've been thinking about the conversation I had with [livejournal.com profile] woman_of_ on Sunday about books that had an impact on me when I was a teenager. Do you ever go back and read books that you loved or that influenced you only to find that as you've got older they don't fit into your life the way they once did? I don't often read a book more than once because there's so much new stuff out there for me to enjoy, but I've been thinking of going back to some of the books we discussed and now I'm worried I'm somehow going to ruin my teenage memories. What if these books aren't what I remember?

Am I being silly? Should I read the books again or leave them in the past?

*sighs*

Clearly I am watching too much Frasier and it's making me over-analyse everything. LOL. Quick, someone find somethig shallow and meaningless for me to think about ;)

[identity profile] tx-cronopio.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's true!

Most of the books I've loved, I still love, but you do get the occasional horrific disillusionment (Asimov was one for me).

On the other hand, sometimes books that I loathed 25 years ago really enchant me now.

Meh. Age. What are you gonna do?

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And I'm not even 30 yet. Damn! LOL!

I think I should probably go for it, right? Better to know than live in ignorance ;)

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/woman_of_/ 2008-02-12 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can read The Prophet time and time again. It is ageless, and has sections that work for each stage of your life. My only problem with re-reading a book is boredom, when I skip sections I was not fond of!

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
As I said I don't do it often but our chat made me think about it and I'm curious as to whether they still stand up. I should really get through my 'to read' pile first. LOL

Oh, you've just reminded me I need to do one more post before bed. I hope people aren't getting bored of all my book talk

[identity profile] danaid-luv.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
CLEX! *ducks & runs*

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm...Clex...
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[personal profile] danceswithgary 2008-02-12 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
My bookcases became much less crowded when I began re-reading a while back. More than once I got 1/2 way through something only to go, "what was I thinking?" The books went as donations. *sigh*

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. I'd rather just have the nice memories of enjoying the books rather than thinking 'Wow, I wasted my teenage years reading crap'

[identity profile] notsowise-sage.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Me, I'll read a book over and over, and have been known to read the same book twice in a one year period. There is one book I read every year, in the style of Kyle Maclachlan, since I was 11, and that's Dune (just the original book). When I was younger, it was a difficult book to read, and each re-reading brought many new aspects of it to life, and opened up new possibilities. Even now, I can read it - and a detail will become far more prominent this time round. My imagination being warped and somewhat powerful (or it is to me anyway), the experience can be completely different. Like watching a film filmed from multiple angles, or multiple emphasis on characters and story.

I regularly read the Incarnation of Immortality series by Piers Anthony, again I started reading this round about when I was 13. Tarot, by Piers Anthony I came to late, however I can see myself reading that several times.

Quite a few of Asimov's short stories I'll read over and over again, my favourite is the Positronic Man for instance. Pretty much anything with Elijah Bailey, or Dr Susan Calvin.

When I was a teenager I read a lot of the Dragonlance books, and re-read most of those, and a lot of ones I hadn't read last year. Not fantastically written fiction, but very much fun and easy to read. They're the kind of books you can clear in a good day's reading. It helped give me that 200+ reading list for 2007.

The hardest ones for me to re-read are crime and murder mystery books. I love Ruth Rendell, and Agatha Christie. Unfortunately there are few and far between of their books I've not read over the years. There are a few I can get into anytime, it's a cliché but Murder on the Orient Express is one for example, Doon to Death another. Read most of Morse too, however I don't like Morse as a character, so never wanted to re-read them.

I'm hard pressed to find books I've re-read I didn't enjoy a second time round.

A side affect of reading books from when I was younger, I tend to listen to the music I listened to as I read them. Though not always the music I originally listened to - such is the case with Chronicles of the Lance series which very much belong to Foo Fighters One By One. Where as One By One very much suits the moods and feelings of the books, the music I listen to, to Dune very much doesn't - back in the days I first started reading it, I listened to a lot of my dad's music, mostly the book to me is associated with T-Rex, Moody Blues, The Animals, and The American Breed, with a bit of Meatloaf mixed in for some good affect.

Back to point - there are some stories I can't read from when I was younger, and each and every one of them, were written by me. There are too many mistakes, stories don't flow - and years later the original thoughts, feelings, and imaginations have sadly gone and don't make up for the shortcomings in the stories. I can glaze over terrible writing, if it's all in my head, because all the words do is prompt my imagination to recreate the story, but only if it's fairly recent, otherwise a thousand other thoughts since will degenerate the vividness of my originally imagined stories. That's why I'm taking my current story so seriously - I'd like to read it again in ten years, and think it's a great story still.


This excerpt of "A Boy Gone Wrong: The Autobiograpy of JL Lawrence", was brought to you by Radio Sage. The book is available in no good book shops, and Tesco, for £1.99

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've seen how many books you go through in a year though. You read MUCH faster than I do. Discounting graphic novels I'm lucky if I get through 20 novels a year. I don't have the spare time to revisit old stuff

[identity profile] notsowise-sage.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Books are easier and faster to read if you can lock onto the pattern the writer is using, they tend to just flow through me then. Even the most complexly worded book can sudden become a quick read, with that right key. That said, not all books have keys to their flow, I never got one for High Fidelity, and Dune definitely doesn't have one that makes it easier.

The time it takes me to get to work and back is also a valuable asset. Out of a one hour journey, I find myself with thirty to forty minutes good reading time - though if a books too good, I've been known to miss stops, or worse still not realise, or not bother that my bus is coming towards me and just carry on reading.

Most books I read in a year I would put at round about the 350 mark, however I worked in Bradford, and commuted from Leeds. Strangely I rarely minded the strikes, or the bad weather as I'd be too engrossed in a book to notice. Oh and not smoking back then helped, that frees up time at lunch and such.

At the moment, for read/writing I get maybe four good hours in a day. Though I am fail, tonight on the writing account. I can't settle down with pen or key to get some words down for my story. Wrote loads on the bus earlier :-s

[identity profile] notsowise-sage.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Oh and another suggestion, if there is a book you're fancying from when you're younger, why not look see if it's on audiobook. Never really been into audiobooks before, but this year I've listened to The Northern Lights (which was fantastic, and turned me onto audio books), I Am Legend, Stardust, and next I've got some Lovecraft and some Xanth books to listen to. They're fantastic in I can surf and listen to them.

Actually I tend to chat online anyway, or watch a film/listen to music when reading at home. Nothing intense, but something easy going. Don't ask how I don't end up behind one, or both, or completely muddled up, for some reason it all just fits together :). My only issue is I can only write, and listen to music - I can't watch any form of TV, nor can I be online.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I have to have pretty much silence when I'm reading or writing.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Four hours a day? I get in an hour at most. LOL!

It's annoying that I can't read on buses or in cars though. It makes me sick :(
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[personal profile] gillo 2008-02-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I re-read when I need "comfort food", and because some books stand reading even when you almost know them by heart. It helps that I'm a fast reader...

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I used to be a fast reader, I suppose because I had more time to do it. These days not so much so all my reading time is precious and I feel like I'm wasting it reading something I've already read
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[personal profile] gillo 2008-02-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I usually have three or four books on the go at once, and I read more than I watch TV. I have to read fast for the job, which helps.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
I usually have one book on the go at a time but recently I've started having a work book and a home book so in theory I should double the amount I read. LOL!

[identity profile] selinamoonfire.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
LOL I thought I was odd because I had books that were "comfort food."

[identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I have several books I read as a teenager and have read again. Most were still just as good. Bear in mind I never really read Young Adult books, I went from stories about horses straight into Sci Fi when I was 11 (now there's a jump).

I used to read so much, now I barely know what a book is. I miss that.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on missing that. The internet has, sadly, resulted in me reading far fewer books than I used to because I'm using the time to do other things

[identity profile] bogwitch.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
You're still doing well. I've read half a travel book this year so far.

[identity profile] ceci2176.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I really think you should read them again. I do that every now and then, and I have yet to be disappointed. :-)

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! The opinion seems to be divided. Not that it matters as I have a huge 'to read' pile to get through before I buy any more books

[identity profile] ceci2176.livejournal.com 2008-02-12 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I would be surprised if the opinion wasn't divided. ;-)

I've actually found that I can still read translated books - for years I avoided them since I felt they didn't do the originals justice, and sometimes were downright bad, but last week I read one (Phantom of the Opera epilogue) that was fabulous...and so I've decided to give reading in Swedish another chance. :-)

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very impressed that you can read whole novels in a language that isn't your first. I couldn't do that with any of the languages I learned at school

[identity profile] ceci2176.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
As I've said in my journal, I don't think it's a big deal at all.... *g*

[identity profile] selinamoonfire.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I reread books occasionally. Not as much as I used to. I usually reread stuff when I'm stressed and need something comforting to curl up with (other than the kitties).

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hehe! Kitties are a definite help
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[personal profile] spikewriter 2008-02-13 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
My number one comfort food in books? The hardback two volume of set of Winnie-the-Pooh/House at Pooh Corner and When We Were Very Young/Now We Are Six that my parents gave me for my sixth birthday. Yup, I've had these for over forty years.

There are only a few keeper books -- many that I really enjoyed when I was a teenager I found I haven't enjoyed that much when I re-read them. Most of the long-term keepers are children's books.

Btw, great moments in theatre -- seeing Patrick Stewart do his one-man show Uneasy Lies the Head and watch him do a selection from King John followed by A.A. Milne's poem about King John and the red India rubber ball.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hee! That sounds brilliant!

Were you disappointed when the books you read as a teenager weren't as good as you remembered?
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[personal profile] spikewriter 2008-02-13 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Quite -- I find I re-read less as I get older, though there are a few keepers (those are mostly odd things, not your standard teen fare).

I think part of it is that when we're in our teens, we're bubbling cauldrons of emotions and hormones and we feel everything as if it's the end of the world. Most of the time it isn't, of course, but we're convinced no one has ever felt this way before or ever will again. A lot of books that are aimed at teens play on that dynamic, and I found myself saying "Oh, this is so profound. This Speaks Truth." Then I re-read it ten years later and realized that the characters were a bit overly emo and angsty and you can't live your life at that pitch all the time.

I've often wanted to smack the characters I enjoyed when I was a teenager because I wanted them to wake up and look at the rest of the world. Of course, I wasn't any different than those characters at that time. Maybe that's why the children's books still appeal to me -- they aren't about OMG-life-changing-experiences-that-no-one-but-me-understands-and-why-is-the-world-so-cruel, but about wonder and exploring and learning new things, stuff that it's good to remind ourselves of no matter our age.

I think I need a Pooh icon. :)

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a wonderful sentiment and so true as well :)

[identity profile] summer-moth.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
I read reeeeeeeeally fast, & if I like something I have to own it & I pretty much always re-read it. My main problem in life is remembering to stop reading & do all those other important things that are waiting to be done. Sometimes I re-read a book I loved after a gap of a few years & still love it but it means something different to me because I've changed...I did that with Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land - I'd always read my parents' copy so when I left home I didn't read it for several years, then bought it last year & suddenly understood it on a completely different level!

[identity profile] summer-moth.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Which is basically me saying I think you'll be ok if you re-read stuff :-)

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe! Thanks!

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the other side of it I guess. There's a chance I'll get more out of it now than I did when I was a teenager

[identity profile] flickums.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite a nice and interesting idea. I occasionally think about re-reading The Animals of Farthing Wood, a series which pretty much dominated my childhood and seeing what I make of it now. Can't really remember the books I read as a teenager as I thought most of the teenage fiction being read by people at school was pretty trashy and awful and the adult fiction was a little too hard to swallow for me.

Hmmm.

[identity profile] hils.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It's interesting isn't it.